I've had a thread in The Dwarf Tavern where I've been getting a lot of help for a couple of games this upcoming weekend. I will be playing against two friends in separate games (and/or a potential 3 way free-for-all that will last all day). We're all new to 8th Edition after getting back into the game.
The HE player will be using BotWD (unsure which unit), a Griffon, maybe a Phoenix, and really just a wide variety of units. The VC player will be using a Black Coach, Banshee, no Zombies, and probably not too many units that are new from 6th Edition, which is the last book he had when he played.
We also are used to running units of infantry from 18-21 models, so I don't see a need to change that too drastically. Here's my work in progress list:
Characters: 632 pts
1 Runesmith w/ Rune of Spellbreaking, Fiery Ring of Thori, Rune of Stone, Shield @ 128
I'll run him with the Ironbreakers and hope to use the Ring to boost a round of combat.
1 Runesmith w/ Rune of Spellbreaking, Rune of the Furnace, Rune of Stone, Shield @ 98
Goes with Longbeards
Grimm Burloksson @ 165
I know he's pricey, but he can really boost my naked Organ Gun that will need to put the hurt on whatever unit has BotWD. His gun also in my mind can take out a unit of war machine hunters (Reavers, Wolves, Eagle, Fell Bats) by itself IMO. So I like him quite a bit.
Josef Bugman @ 165
Goes with Ironbreakers. I just like his fluff, and wanted to make the Ironbreaker unit a bit better in combat. Currently my general.
Master Engineer w/ Pistol @ 76
Helps the other Organ Gun
Core: 602... I need to find 23 more points somewhere
19 Longbeards w/ Shields, Full Command, Rune of Stoicism @ 312 pts
20 Quarrellers w/ Shields, Full Command @ 290 pts
18 Ironbreakers w/ Full Command, Brace of Drakefire Pistols @ 282 pts
My main close combat unit.
15 Slayers @ 180
Never used them before, but Deathblow seems like a lot of fun. I'm usually better at tactics than my friends, so I feel like I can get them into combat.
2 Gyrocopters @ 160
1 Grudge Thrower w/ Rune of Accuracy, Rune of Forging, Rune of Penetrating @ 170
Against the armies I'll be playing, I think this is more versatile than a Cannon.
Organ Gun @ 120
Naked so it can deal with BotWD
Organ Gun w/ Rune of Penetrating @ 160
I know I should use Accuracy or Forging or both, but I really like how versatile a S6 Organ Gun is. It gives me a second war machine that can effectively monster hunt.
That's currently 2306 pts, so I have some room to work with.
I know everyone will say that I need a BSB, but I've never really liked the idea of a hero who just lugs a flag around in terms of fluff and I think with my Longbeards being stubborn, Slayers unbreakable, and IB's being stubborn sometimes from Bugman that it's not completely necessary to field a BSB.
I am thinking since I want the Ironbreakers to be my main unit of 5 more so I have a unit of 25.
I'm not sure what to do about my core. That's been a struggle.
My combat units lack strength, but against HE I feel like Great Weapons are a waste and I don't see it being a huge need against VC as long as I can deal with the Black Coach.
I have also thought about not using Bugman and trying a Lord on Shieldbearers just because he could tank and deal with some serious stuff if need be. We plan on playing Blood and Glory where the most expensive unit (not char.) is also worth 2 fortitude points. So they'll probably be gunning for my Ironbreakers.
As you can likely tell, I'm looking for a fun list than can also be competitive.
Thanks in advance for any help or insight!
Edited by dmorley21, 02 February 2015 - 02:51 PM.