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#1 Khazadrin

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Posted 17 February 2014 - 07:11 PM

with the introduction of the new miniatures released and the new design line, i have started to work on my dwarf flying fortress :P

 

i will use the following for help:

 

white dwarf 306, has a nice article on lotr-style ship (loaned from a friend)

this very useful website: http://portsofpelargir.webs.com

this thread from warseer: http://www.warseer.c...Airship-project

 

these are my sketches and i hope to match them - not the most competent when it comes to scratch building :P

 

oh - and i need a better name for it! 

 

the zeppelin has a bomb bay (below deck), 2 guns mounted on each side for self defence, a pilot (in the front) and a commander (rear). the front "balloon" section is larger, because i think this part will be heavier, as the bomb bay is more towards the front. the balloons are protected with "sheet armour plates", and the front has some sort of battering ram made of sloped metal. shields are there to protect the wooden hull. the weird shield is supposed to have a metalsmith duck-billed pliers or something like that.

 

side view:

 

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upper view (not very detailed)

 

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#2 Theatralic

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Posted 17 February 2014 - 07:21 PM

This could become awesome, now you need to live up to my expectations ;P. I will follow this-

 

My Birthday is in August by the way, if you could be so nice and have it finished, packed and shipped by then it would be great :thumbup:



#3 Dourin

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Posted 17 February 2014 - 08:49 PM

Oh, you mean my thread? :D

 

It's available here in the brewery as well (check my signature for the link)! Best of luck Khazadrin, looking forward to see your zeppelin. :)


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#4 Manus Battlehammer

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Posted 17 February 2014 - 10:32 PM

Looks cool so far. Can't wait to see the completed model.

#5 Double Misfire

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Posted 18 February 2014 - 06:04 PM

Impressive, can't wait.



#6 Mackelius

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Posted 18 February 2014 - 06:49 PM

Very nice idea.  :thumbup:



#7 Khazadrin

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Posted 19 February 2014 - 06:10 PM

i went shopping today :P

 

3X 10mm*100^3mmX1.5mm balsa wood boards

a bag of 4mm diameter wooden sticks (for the propellor mounts)

0.5mm diameter metal thread

sewing pins

wood glue

grey primer (always use grey! it's better for undercoating than black or white)

a bag of popsicle sticks

600 &1200 grit sanding paper

 

---still need a name

stay tuned :P

 

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#8 Khazadrin

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Posted 19 February 2014 - 07:35 PM

and so it began...

 

 

first, i cut a 40cm long piece from one of the boards:

 

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i decided to make the most lower part 6cm wide, so i can follow (more or less) the thunder barge build by Dourin   and the white dwarf one. first i made a perpendicular line at the bottom, marked 2cm on each side, then drew a line parallel to that, again marked 2cm and so on. 

 

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the edges were cut and sanded so they are straight:

 

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i divided the new width and made a 3cm radius arc at one of the ends, this will be the front of the zeppelin. cut the arc and sanded to get it as circular as i could

 

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as the bomb bay is at the bottom, i marked it and cut the opening:

 

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that's it for now. tomorrow I'm gonna use the popsicle sticks to add integrity and strength to the balsa wood. maybe try to make some sort of a keel


Edited by Khazadrin, 19 February 2014 - 07:47 PM.


#9 Wendersnaven

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Posted 20 February 2014 - 03:50 AM

Woot, it begins.   Pure hobby. :thumbup:

 



#10 Khazadrin

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Posted 20 February 2014 - 12:51 PM

today's update:

 

cut some popsicle sticks in half to create support beams. used a rotary tool with cutting disc:

 

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cut some more sticks to make perpendicular support beams:

 

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made grooves in those beams:

 

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one support section - going to add more, but the glue needs 30 minutes for pre-dry (in lack of better term) and then 24hours to fully dry. so now, i wait and add more section every half an hour

 

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in order for everything to set, i place a bowl of water on top to create weight on the beams (no picture)



#11 Dourin

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Posted 20 February 2014 - 01:28 PM

Hmm, I can't really make out what you're doing there, but you're doing it well in any case. :D

 

Can't wait to see more progress. Also, get used to these long drying times. This project will take a while.



#12 Khazadrin

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Posted 20 February 2014 - 02:01 PM

well, this is kinda like the general direction, but i don't want to use foam, so I'm building the hull from layers of balsa. also the front is circular rather than triangular (for a balloon of sorts)

 

http://www.one-ring.co.uk/kb.php?a=114


Edited by Khazadrin, 20 February 2014 - 02:01 PM.


#13 Giant collector

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Posted 20 February 2014 - 02:19 PM

In the USA we have liquid nails for wood projects,maybe you can find something similar where you are.It would give a stronger bond and maybe you wouldn't have to wait so long between sections? Probably be neater then the glue you're using now. But I'd experiment with some other woods first so you could see how it bonds. Gc



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Posted 20 February 2014 - 02:25 PM

liquid nails? first time i ever heard of that. the glue supposed to be applied like this (it says "generously" on the instructions:P) and anyway I'm going to cut the excess off



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Posted 20 February 2014 - 02:56 PM

Liquid nails is a construction glue.Much thicker then wood glue. It'd be best used on the interior.You would be laying a thin line of it and wouldn't have all that excess. Even if you don't use something like it I'd try to get that excess glue off when it's still wet,thou it shouldn't matter about excess where it won't be seen. It'd be alot easier for you then when it hardens and you have to scrap or chisel it. Great project and good luck with however you do it. I can't wait to see the finished result.Gc



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Posted 25 February 2014 - 02:39 PM

i marked and drilled 4mm holes for the propellor masts - adde a mast, because the copter is bigger than i'd thought

 

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glued the middle deck, put some weights to get it glued properly 

 

 

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Posted 26 February 2014 - 12:40 PM

glue drying time is slowing my progress, but anyway here's today's work:

 

2nd deck glued + support:

 

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used balsa wood panels to seal off the sides of the bomb-bay:

 

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how about this for a name:

 

His Grudgness Air Ship - the Karak-ken (GET IT????? :P)



#18 Dourin

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Posted 26 February 2014 - 12:53 PM

Nice progress, keep it up. :)



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Posted 26 February 2014 - 02:26 PM

Nice progress looks like you're wiping the glue while it's still wet. That's gonna save you some time and aggravation.If you can move this around preferably on a tray put it above a heat source. Maybe not directly above but near higher up. Not too high that you can't manage it thou. That'll help it dry faster.Good work,Gc



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Posted 26 February 2014 - 02:29 PM

Nice progress looks like you're wiping the glue while it's still wet. That's gonna save you some time and aggravation.If you can move this around preferably on a tray put it above a heat source. Maybe not directly above but near higher up. Not too high that you can't manage it thou. That'll help it dry faster.Good work,Gc

 

 

i thought about it, but it causes the balsa to deform under the weight of the weights (lol, that's a funny thing to say)







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